We received this email from some guy named Nathan on September 10, 2010. He said we don't have permission to use his name or his email. We've put up his first name. His last name and email address have not been put up here per his request.
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Subject: hello there
From: Nathan
Date: Wed, September 08, 2010 2:05 am
To: info@repealsmokingbans.com
I came across your website and couldn't tell if you guys were being genuine or satirical..
Well, let me get this out of the way.
Somehow, I have a feeling that had all of those "souls" you keep exploiting, (the pictures of our men and women in the service, dead or alive) somehow I can't help but feel that smoking was not one of the freedoms that they fought and died for.
If that indeed were the case, that if smoking were such an integral, nay, such an important staple of living freely, important enough to fight, kill and die for, then they were fools, idiots, buffoons, numbskulls, cretins, halfwits, &tc.. You shouldn't exploit and abuse their memory for your agenda (which is nothing short of a protracted, disgusting form of suicide).
How exactly does the freedom to smoke constitute real freedom? I mean, here you have these big tobacco men raking in billions, investing in every sort of way to get you to smoke, and here you are, paying through your ears every day, month, every year to do what exactly? To hold a burning plant and feel that insipid, sharp poison borrow another minute from your life?
They make the money. You buy the product. They live in freedom, where you are the slave.
And they have millions of slaves.
So, I guess all I'm saying is I support your right to petition, I support your freedom, hell, I don't give really a smooth fuck what you do; make a union of slaves who stand strong. But don't bring them into it. Don't tarnish, exploit, soil and manipulate the struggle of American soldiers for your bullshit.
You may not use my name or email address if you should decide to put this in one of your hall of shames.
Nathan says "somehow I can't help but feel that smoking was not one of the freedoms that they fought and died for."
So what freedoms did they fight and die for, Nathan? The ones you think they gave all for? Your political persuassion, but not others? That right? How about living and letting live?
Our reply to Nathan, not edited, is pasted below. A little wordy, but shown as sent.
Nathan,
Those souls you spoke of, they fought and died for freedom. They didn't give all for the freedom(s) you deem appropriate, but all freedom. It's a concept. Right? It's the greatest thought process that's ever been manifested into reality in the history of all humanity. You live your life, we'll live ours. Let's do it in a peaceful way. Simple deal.
Veterans? We take very, very seriously those who gave all and volunteered for potential death in defence of freedom and liberty. We support (with actions, not only words) those who have been lucky enough to return home alive, whether whole or scarred forever in this life. No in-between on that one; from Washington and his rag-tagged men crossing the Delaware on Christmas Day in defence of liberty to the wars in the Middle East today. It's give and take, man.
Granted, some wars shouldn't have been engaged and fought. Are we in agreement there?
We'd like to be allowed again - nay, demand - to live our lives (again) and operate bars, cafes, restaurants and businesses without zealot interferance. You've gone too far. Don't like smoke? Then don't go somewhere where smoking is going on. Simple deal. Open a bar or a dress shop or an insurance agency. Don't allow smoking. That's your choice, your money invested. We don't have a problem with that. We demand recovering the same right from zealots who demand all obey them. Or be punished. In America.
We're not backing down. You and yours have gone too far. Your thinking manifests a disrespect for the rule of law. That's bad for all of us. Hence, we find you - in your current state - disgusting. You're anti-freedom. We don't take that lightly. We will fight back.
Come around. We'll support you. We don't need drama. We don't want fighting. That's stupid. We need freedom. Live your life, we'll live ours.
Thank you again for stopping by our website.
Best,
www.RepealSmokingBans.com
Below is one of the 1st emails we received. It came in on November 9, 2009. It's from a guy named Frank Amend, and it's pasted below as received, not edited. Strike that: Frank included address and phone number. We've deleted that information. Frank also included a photo of himself and he asked us to put it up. Okie dokie.
Aside: A little research on Frank shows he's a cancer survivor. Good for him. We don't wish Frank Amend ill health. We hope he's getting better. We're serious. That said, we also want him to leave people alone and quit with the demands for tyranny in the United States. But he doesn't appear to understand that. Frank, as stated above, if you want this taken down, then email us. We'll do it.
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Subject: Shame, Shame
From:
frankamend@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, November 10, 2009 6:40 am
To:
info@repealsmokingbans.com
I came upon your website this morning and was generally appalled. The usual misinformation and vitriolic behavior usually associated with your type of groups. I do believe that everyone has the right to smoke, but that people who don't smoke have a constitutional right not to have to breathe in the second-hand fumes. If your constituency wants to smoke, go outside or go to a smoking room where you all can contaminate yourselves. Also, please check with the constitutional scholars that you undoubtedly have on staff - there is no law on the books protecting smoking, but there are plenty protecting ones right to breathe clean air. I am attaching my photo so hopefully you can honor me with a spot on your Hall of Shame? This would be an honor that would equal being chosen as the American Heart Association's Survivor Advocate of the Year for 2009.
Regards,
Frank
Our reply to Frank the same day, not edited:
Frank,
Appalled by freedom, it would seem.
It's about individual rights. If you don't like smoking, then don't go to places that allow smoking. Period. You didn't invest your money into restaurants, and bars, and casino's, and businesses that do allow smoking. The owners did. Open up a business with your own money that doesn't allow smoking. We'll abide by your rules. No problem. Your money and business, not ours. Don't be so arrogant to tell people how to run their businesses or their lives. Simple deal.
And no, the people who go to places where there is smoking don't have a constitutional right to go into those places and not breathe second-hand smoke. The same for the joggers on city streets who breathe in just as/and as harmful fumes from vehicles.
Step back and take an honest look at your thinking process: If someone were to open up a business that allowed smoking, and if you lived to be 100 but never went to that business, then they still shouldn't be allowed to allow smoking. That correct? Because people need to be protected from themselves? By you?
No one needs or wants you to watch over them, Frank. Nor have they asked you to.
Thanks for your email. Sure, we'll put up your picture. You're thinking is dangerous to free peoples.
www.RepealSmokingBans.com
And then Frank shot us another email. Shown below as received, not edited:
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Subject: Re: Shame, Shame
From: frankamend@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, November 10, 2009 8:48 am
To: info@repealsmokingbans.com
What is the percentage of people that live to be 100 that are smokers and non-smokers?
Only 20% of the population now smoke, right? So you punish us for letting you guys make us sick? Doesn't make sense.
Thanks for putting me on your wall of shame!
Frank
Frank, we don't punish anyone. If you don't like smoking, then don't go to businesses where smoking is allowed. In your current state of mind, we find you disgusting.
We also recieved an email from a guy named Martin, titled "Perfect Answer To Frank Amend." Pasted below as received.
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Subject: Perfect answer to Frank Amend.
From: MMHaffner
Date: Mon, November 23, 2009 1:14 am
To:
info@repealsmokingbans.com
Frank The Prohibitionist asked What is the percentage of people that live to be 100 that are smokers and non-smokers?
.Well the answer is gonna get his lil panties in a twist. It's a 120% that smokers live longer.
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1. Oldest confirmed Person ever? 122- LIFE LONG SMOKER."Jeanne Louise Calment 21 February 1875 – 4 August 1997, was a French woman with the longest confirmed lifespan in history at age 122 years 164 days. She smoked until the age of 117, only five years before her death." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Calment
2. Then we have the second Oldest 120 - LIFE LONG SMOKER "Fulla was known for her love of smoking ganja, cigars and palm juice. She also loved steaming hot tea." http://ibnlive.in.com/news/orissas-oldest-woman-fulla-dead/26530-3.html
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In fact smokers hold the record for longevity. The oldest people on Earth are all smokers. http://www.forces.org/evidence/hamilton/other/oldest.htm
More to follow when we receive letters from those who don't agree with us.